Deleted Deleted Fellow member Posts: 0 | Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 16:xiv:02 GMT Ok for those of you lot who don't know, Eskrima is a Filipino class of stick fighting, developed later the Spanish colonies in the Philippines passed a police against natives conveying swords, it was used to mimic actual sword techniques and (probably) has more application in today's world where carrying a blade is a bit more than than illegal (correct me if I'thou wrong on that one) I'yard looking for a sword to fit that style. Yes wikipedia has a whole bunch on their folio, but I'grand thinking something more in the traditional line of swords. Typically eskrima sticks are 24-26 inches, pretty curt for a blade, but it provides more speed and control over the blade. Suggestions don't have to exist limited to exotic asian swords. Chinese, Japanese, even european. I want to hear any and all suggestions | |
| Post by lamebmx on Apr 2, 2012 16:19:38 GMT wakizashi | |
| Post past Vincent Dolan on Apr 2, 2012 16:24:49 GMT Basically anything from these guys. Otherwise, a duan (short) jian or perhaps a langes messer; maybe even a short arming sword, such as an Oakeshott Type 14 (typically have a 26-27" bract). | |
Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0 | Postal service by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 16:36:59 GMT Interesting suggestions.... I've tried a Jian before, but I plant it a tad long (non sure about the length) seeing every bit he the length of a jian can vary a lot, I might give it a effort with a shorter blade. Equally for Wakizashi, I've never tried one before. I was under the impression that they were quite heavy, but again I've never used ane before. Arming sword. I haven't got much knowledge nigh those. What is the difference between the types? langes messer. Over again I've never used a falchion (or variant) earlier. From what I learned about those types of swords, they're designed to be able to hack through chainmail right? Wouldn't that make the end of the blade rather heavy? | |
| Post past lamebmx on Apr 2, 2012 16:49:10 GMT My KC waki is extremely light and peppy. 18" blade, 1.5ish lbs. its like a butter knife on steriods. that cuts mats like butter. My ronin has an actress inch on the blade and feels quite a fleck heavier. The munetoshi I promptly got rid of was actually heavy, felt like a reddish brick on a handle. | |
| Post past thepepperskull on Apr three, 2012 20:06:17 GMT If you want something more historically accurate, I would suggest Kris Cutlery's Philippine sandata over traditionalfilipinoweapons. Both, notwithstanding, are very well made. KC'south stuff is just more historically authentic in make. Traditinalfilipinoweapons has some blades that are very true to form in the historical context and others that are completely non-traditional. Either fashion you go, they're both very good options in terms of function. | |
| Mail by Insane on April 6, 2012 17:32:33 GMT In the diverse escrima martial arts they use machetes and barong knives. | |
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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0 | Post by Deleted on Apr xv, 2012 xviii:03:17 GMT Definitely second the communication for traditional Filipino weapons and kris cutlery. You won't get much meliorate quality than those sites for Filipino weapons, unless you contact the blade makers in the Phillipines. Other swords like the wakizashi exercise not handle the mode it'due south trained in Escrima fifty-fifty though information technology's like size. Yous would want something forrad curved because of the way Escrima trains to generate power with the stick or machete. Either a Ginunting or something forward curved with a recurve / belly and distal taper and ergonomic handle is what you want. | |
| Mail by WEWolf on April sixteen, 2012 16:37:52 GMT Although I know nil about sandata, I have ordered a small-scale pocketknife from Kris Cutlery and a Chinese dao from Traditional Filipino Weapons. In both cases I was greatly pleased past the speed of shipping, and the customer service. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend either of these two companies. | |
| Post by Son of Laren on Apr 26, 2012 14:twoscore:36 GMT Have y'all idea about the Cold Steel Barong machete, Bowie machete or the Magnum Kukri machete? All have a wide enough blade to withal be rigid enough and all come in lengths at least 18 inches. All of them are pretty price effective, easy to maintenance and can withal be found out there on the spider web. All of them can be modified and sharpened to your taste. | |
Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0 | Mail service by Deleted on Jun nineteen, 2012 v:43:55 GMT Any lightweight machete will flow just too as a rattan stick. Marbles machete from smkw.com. Inexpensive and lite enough for drills, and sharp. Then after practice y'all can utilise it for some brush clearing. | |
| Mail service by stickem on Jun xix, 2012 xiv:56:39 GMT Okysho ~ This is what I use: Espada y daga made by KC I dunno how you like to move, but having a blade in each hand doing sinawali feels nearly natural to me. I just movement improve than when I take both hands on a single larger sword. And so I am having to make some adjustments while learning to utilize a katana at the moment. Perhaps at some point I'll move to a kat & waki daishÅ... dunno. Anyway, so this KC pair is what I take to the rose-of-sharon bush growing in our lawn whenever I feel the need to apply live blades. I tend to revolve around the bush, option out a specific blossom, then brand it disappear. This keeps my timing and accuracy pretty right on & I can change management whenever it suits. The bush gets gianormous if you don't prune it, so it's all good. Please be aware that if you aren't used to moving this fashion, I am not suggesting you try to acquire how to do then with live blades. My suggestion is fifty-fifty if you lot are fluent with the sticks, go very comfy with some trainers before you start playing with the real things. Mine were made by a blacksmith friend from aircraft aluminum to meet the specs of the alive blades. I likewise have a kamagong version of the espada y daga which I got from Cecil years ago and are heavier. Matter is, I actually used a metal trainers rather than wood shaped like a bract to make the transition from rattan --> live blades. There isn't much to be gained by going from being familiar with a stick to using kamagong or other wooden "blades" IMO. What I mean is in that location is an inherent difference in my intention when I use metal vs. woods weapons, which makes me much more conscientious and deliberate. That is, I find I am much more than aware when using metal, and more Capt. Caveman when wielding forest. My opinion is wood/rattan by itself does not simulate the visual stimulus of a alive blade enough to become this awareness & focus. Wood simply won't cut you, and in your heart/mind you know it. Blunt metal won't cut either, but you volition exist aware of when the metallic trainer would take cutting y'all while yous are playing, while most folks are pretty oblivious to when a rattan stick would have done then. And so consider taking the extra step of using a blunt metal trainer in betwixt the bound from sticks to alive blades if you lot oasis't done so already. This is probably not much different than the Japanese model of progression from bokken--> iaito --> live blade. The bottom line is I gotta 1" reminder on my forearm from a fourth dimension when my focus slipped while using these recently. Been practicing FMA for 20 years with Guro Dan and the Canis familiaris Brothers and others much amend than myself, merely $h!+ nevertheless happens. I now know what it is similar to really be cut by a sword, so feel gained, attitude adjusted, and all that. Anyway, I glued it shut at domicile with the sterile equivalent of crazy gum. And so no real worries now, only came came pretty close to the radial nerve with the daga. I tin can tell considering when I printing on the scar tissue in the middle of my forearm where the laceration was, it gets tingly all the way downwardly at the base of my thumb. So delight keep in mind I am speaking from experience with these suggestions rather than reading books or Wikipedia or whatnot. Hope this helps! ~ Stick'em | |
| Post by Lukas MG (chenessfan) on Jun 19, 2012 18:28:34 GMT I second KC or TFW, depending on what y'all want to do. I railroad train in Kali Silat merely we frequently practise some Espada y data stuff, too. Of class sinawali get only fine with the longer blade alone. In training we use rattan but also aluminum trainers. Stick'em is absolutely right, no affair how hard to try to be realistic when using wood, in that location'southward simply no comparison to using even blunt metallic where you can see and feel the border and weight of the blade in hand. Only alive blades can tiptop that only obviously they are limited to working without a partner. | |
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